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Royal Mail Sorting Office Closure Meeting..

You may of received a leaflet about this from the Labour Party.

Royal Mail is proposing to close the Sorting Office on Silvester Road in East Dulwich.
This has been on the cards for a while now. If this were to happen East Dulwich residents
would have to travel to central Peckham to pick up undelivered parcels, oversized letters
and Recorded Delivery post.

The meeting will take place at The East Dulwich Community Centre 46-50 Darrell Road, SE22 9NL
on Tuesday 4th April at 7pm.

In attendance will be Helen Hayes, Member of Parliament for Dulwich and West Norwood.

Please come along and share your views on Royal Mails plans.

DulwichFox
I think I'll come along to this, least we can do is pack the place out and show our concern.
Thanks for posting Foxy.
Surely people won’t attend – If they use e-mail/s instead of letters via the Royal Mail service + on-line back statements – etc-etc-etc.
Not every one has email or on line accounts. What about parcels?
Roundabout Wrote:

Surely people won’t attend – If they use e-mail/s
instead of letters via the Royal Mail service +
on-line back statements – etc-etc-etc.

The sorting office always has a queue throughout the day so is a valuable asset to the area.
Mainly for parcels as Pugwash pointed out.

Foxy
Parcels – I give-in to that – Parcels as a result of on-line purchases = jobs losses at department stores etc-etc-etc. Can we have it both ways?
Travelling into Peckham to pick up parcels is ridiculous.
There is no parking around the Peckham sorting office.
This is a problem not just for us but for the staff expected to transfer there.
And also the queues will surely be massive, as all the East Dulwich people will add on to the existing Peckham parcel collectors.

They are bad enough already at the ED office.

I'll be at the meeting. I have already sent my views via the pre-paid form which was with the information about the meeting.
I find the sorting office very useful for collecting parcels, as I work FT and am in and out over the weekends doing family stuff as are lots of other people.

When I went the other day I was surprised they didn't have a petition or notice about the closure, tho perhaps the workers aren't bothered or have just accepted the decision? Would assume very likely some will be made redundant as a result of the closure.

I have posted back the questionnaire but can't make the meeting unfortunately (tho I fully support Helen - who seems to do very good work locally I might add)...
The workers will not have been permitted to have a petition in their workplace. I imagine they care very much about their future, though.
The workers there were not allowed to talk about the proposals..

It is possible they too were kept very much in the dark about what was going on.

I do not think the meeting will change anything. If the place is closing.. then it's closing.
I suspect there are many property developers dying to get their hands on the site

I still urge people to attend the meeting to show our disapproval of Royal Mail's decision to close this facility.

DulwichFox
Please do come along to the meeting at the Darrell Road Community Centre on Tuesday the 4th of April at 7pm to discuss the proposed closure of the sorting office. Myself and Helen Hayes, our local MP will be there to discuss the issue and listen to local concerns.
Everyone is welcome.

Yours Sincerely

Councillor Charlie Smith
Deputy Mayor of Southwark
East Dulwich Labour Councillor
For those of us unable to attend is there an alternative way of expressing our displeasure? i.e. to whom should we write?
> I have posted back the questionnaire

Whose questionnaire, and how does it arrive?

RM do provide alternatives to personal collection from the delivery office, so in making your case it might be prudent to mention any drawbacks in those. They're listed at [www.royalmail.com].
I will be very sorry to see this go :-(

First it was the post office by Sainsbury's & now it's this (I know the PO just moved but it went to a less convenient location for me so I never use it) Where can I find the questionaire?
ianr Wrote:

> I have posted back the questionnaire

Whose questionnaire, and how does it arrive?

Mine came through the door with the information about the meeting.

It was from the local Labour party, who have arranged the meeting with Helen Hayes on Tuesday.

But in the latest SE22 magazine, James Barber has also asked people to contact him with their views.
Sue Wrote:

> ianr Wrote:
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> > I have posted back the questionnaire
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> Whose questionnaire, and how does it arrive?

Mine came through the door with the information
about the meeting.

It was from the local Labour party, who have
arranged the meeting with Helen Hayes on Tuesday.

But in the latest SE22 magazine, James Barber has
also asked people to contact him with their views.

I spoke with James yesterday afternoon. He will be in attendance at the meeting..

Foxy
Fewer buses, crappy train services, no police station, fewer rubbish pickups, broken pavements, soon no parcel pick up point. Is there anything else coming our way on ED? Is the local Gov trying to make ED a completely useless area to live in?
Just a reminder, this meeting is tonight at 7.00pm

DulwichFox.
I'm about to set off for it.
Online survey below, more hard copies to be distributed through letter boxes soon apparently.

[www.surveymonkey.co.uk]
Is this the Labour Party one?
I went to the meeting this evening. Although the survey is addressed to Helen Hayes, I don't think it is party led.
Unfortunately I couldn't make it to the meeting last night and haven't received a hard copy yet but I've filled in the survey online. I only live two roads away so count myself extremely lucky to have this resource so close to hand.
Royal Mail had no representative although there was a union member to explain the plans. We need to lobby Moya Green, the CEO.
Did they say the best way to do this? I am keen to voice my concern, but I wanted to find out the best channel to do this through. Does anybody know?
I was at last nights meeting.

A Representative from the Communication Workers Union (Steve ??) was there.
No one from Royal Mail was in attendance. Steve explained that there is no obligation
from Royal Mail to be there and they were not obliged to have any consultation with
local residents regarding the closure of the Silvester Rd Sorting Office.

He explained that the current depot is not fit for purpose. The condition of the building is poor.
Staff tolerate the conditions because of its location and relative ease of parking.
There are no facilities for parking at the new depot which is situated at 2-4 Highshore Rd, London SE15 5AU

Details here.
[www.bing.com]

It would seem that the Highshore Rd. site is already crowded so extra staff would make the situation worse.

Travelling to Peckham will be of great inconvenience to all that need to collect undelivered mail.
It was suggested that local residents need to write to Royal Mail. to express their disapproval or launch petitions.

I cannot personally see any way that this decision can be turned around.

DulwichFox
I was also at the meeting.

The main problem with the current ED delivery office is that it is not big enough for present requirements, with the increase in online shopping etc, so that sometimes the staff have been required to sort items outside.

It was not clear whether or not Royal Mail had considered other options (eg one person at the meeting suggested relocating to a unit on the ED industrial estate), but given the value of the site and the fact that Royal Mail is now privatised, it seems that they are likely to prioritise getting money from the sale over the convenience of local residents.

I queried whether the existing office could be expanded outwards or upwards, but really the sorting all needs to be done on one level.

A Union rep from the Peckham office was also there, and they aren't very keen on this proposed move either. Although there is room for the actual sorting requirements, the callers' office is apparently not very big.

Helen Hayes said that within Southwark, West Norwood was also affected, and in that case residents would be required to collect post/parcels from Anerley, which is actually "skipping over" the nearest office to West Norwood.

There is a suggestion that the library, local shops or (as I think is available now) the Post Office could be used as pick-up points in ED, however this depends on sufficient space being available and I imagine there could be a charge.

If the ED office does become combined with the Peckham office, and if pick up point/s for undelivered items are made available in ED, those undelivered items would be taken back from ED to Peckham for resorting and then brought back to the ED pick-up point/s.

Although this seems inefficient, it is because trying to sort stuff into a logical order at the pick-up points would be a nightmare.

Another issue raised is that because of the time taken for posties to get from Peckham to East Dulwich and back to do their delivery, each postie's "walk" would be shorter, though there would have to be more of them. It wasn't entirely clear how this would affect deliveries, although apparently even at the moment there is a cut-off time of 3pm.

Helen Hayes suggested writing to Royal Mail's CEO and copying her in (and possibly local councillors) so that she (and they) get a feel for how many people have done this, and can use it in any campaign.

Out of interest, apparently there was no requirement to consult residents in a case like this even before privatisation, and as Helen said, she was sure Royal Mail's lawyers would have made absolutely sure that they were acting legally.

I wasn't taking notes, having stupidly forgotten to bring any paper with me, so apologies if any of the above is wrong, though I don't think it is.

I had to leave slightly before the end of the meeting, so I don't know how it concluded.
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